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By: Mutant Palm » Blog Archive » The Wolf Trap

Mutant Palm » Blog Archive » The Wolf Trap — Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:09:42 +0000

[...] sheep when so many Han Chinese are saying themselves that the Han are still weak, weak-minded, and not capable of independent thought in response to criticism and media coverage of the Lhasa events. Clearly Jiang Rong has the pulse [...]

By: Daai Tou Laam Diary

Daai Tou Laam Diary — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:37:53 +0000

Surprise, Surprise, Surprise…

Not sure why, but James Fallows of The Atlantic is surprised.
I keep being re-surprised… .. at how tin-eared and antique the Chinese propaganda apparatus is, compared with the way most other things seem and feel in the country.
Today’s illustratio…

By: Tim

Tim — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 08:51:19 +0000

Jing, you have utterly not convinced me. First off, my understanding is that the week of March 10 is symbolically very important to Tibetan exiles as it is the anniversary of the DL’s flight from Tibet. Most of the events were already scheduled before it became apparent that the unrest would make news. So no one suggests that the events were spontaneous. Secondly, exile agitators and unhappy Tibetans within China have mobiles and use computers. It doesn’t take much for them to communicate, especially when their actions begin to get media attention. The same thing happened last year in Xiamen, and no sees a dark hand behind that protest.

As far as scaling an embassy wall and replacinig the Chinese flag with a Tibetan one, exiles have been doing this in India for years. It makes the news. They are not stupid. Others learn from it.

I personally think it’s easier to blame a sinister black hand for all this than to grasp that a bunch of ragtags succeeded in grabbing some media attention and perhaps embarrassing China.

By: Jim

Jim — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 03:57:46 +0000

I’d like to echo chriswaugh’s comment above. Some time spent working in remote rural communities taught me what a crock the notion young urbanites have of rural ignorance is. Of course there’s morons everywhere in this world and information is hard to come by, but I heard far more insightful and independent thoughts - on history, future directions and the current state of China - expressed by mountain farmers than many of the compromised metropolitan middle classes and elites seem able to manage.
Somewhat ironic also that the most fervent nationalists are the most “Westernised” - modern participants in the global consumer economy. “Backward” rural people retain far more that is essentially Chinese yet spend far less time wringing their hands about the image of the nation-state.

By: Doubter2008

Doubter2008 — Tue, 25 Mar 2008 01:49:18 +0000

Despite all the rhetorics and valid arguments on both sides, what’s happening between the West and East now is nothing but a continuation of the wars between these two civilization. One must remember that the battles between the East and West was never fought on an equal playing field. Now with the emergence of China leading the Asian nations, we finally, for the first time, in history, can witness the East-West confrontation on a more even battlefield. China’s rise and emergence does not represent the rise of China, but Asia as a whole. And surely the West will do what it can to keep China and Asia down. Forget all the talks about democracy or human rights, what is really happening is the battle for civilizational supremecy.

The rise of China and Asia is a direct threat to Western civilzation, as I’ve expected as much that the West will do anything to fight this threat.

By: pp535

pp535 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:19:04 +0000

poor Chinese coolies erh? are you sure you are not the one who also benifted from slave labor by buying cheap goods made by those coolies (by the way those slaves mostly working for the western owners and investors)… remember, we have to toil because you western imperialists and colonialists cheated our equal opportunity for trade and self-determination centuries ago using gun-boat policy and for some time we have to swallow that unjust consequence, you brute!

By: hellen huang

hellen huang — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:44:13 +0000

As to whether poor little Chinese alwasy have to obey, just look at how they fought back the western media’s distortion and slanding in their report on Tibet riot right now….

By: pp535

pp535 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:36:07 +0000

Hi Son of Leifeng,
True, the Chinese government is not the model government in this world. But according to Committee 100, an independent non-profit organization’s survey, the CG got 80% favorite rating from Chinese people while the us government got 40% from Americans. As a Senator from CA said years ago, in the past fifteen years it was the CG who had done most to its people, which has been proven by facts accessible to verify anyone with no biased mind. Please don’t forget that the sweat shop and slavery labor are not invented by the CG or Chinese people. It is an evil resulted from CAPITALISM that was practiced all over the world and it had reached to its peaks centuries ago in the West first as part of civilization. It would be a pitfall not only to China if the government blindly follows the suite…

By: Son of Lei Feng

Son of Lei Feng — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:36:57 +0000

‘This animal doesn’t exist’, the man said the first time he ever saw a giraffe.

Sweet dreams Doubter. Your strong words here are at least 40 years too late.

Some Chinese already have opened their eyes. Within the next 5, 10 or 15 years you have to open you’re eyes too, and you’ll see something you’ll don’t believe today.

You are nothing but at slave to be sold for a few RMB together with your beloved “brothers” and “sisters”. You’ll see the Chinese people are mostly interesting because their workforce is so cheap. A Danish worker earn 30 – 40 times more than a Chinese per month, he’s workplace is protected in a way you never know, he have 6 week paid vacation per year and he have the right to be member of a free trade union helping him to get better paid and to protect him in cases against his employer. In my eyes you are misused again and again. Stupid as you are you believe what the slave-owner, your government tells you. You do, what they want you to do.

What government does to the Tibetans today is what they’ll do to you, if you not follow their rules. They make you feel small, they keep you scared and they make you hyper identifying with their aggressions.

Poor little Chinese…! Always have to obey!

By: Doubter2008

Doubter2008 — Mon, 24 Mar 2008 08:03:36 +0000

Seriously, a lot of times I really wonder if any non-chinese ever knows what the core makeups of the Chinese mind and soul are. It’s becoming more and more evident that the West (civilization) is dying a slow death as they’re choking on their self-generated anti-china & anti- “communist” biles.

Get over it, the Communist party is hoax and facade to sucker your Westerners, or as they say, we’re helping you to dig your own graves. As you Westerners know well, Communism is a Western idelogy, and is totally foreign to Asia until the last century. Communism is nothing but a tool for us China to reclaim our glory under the Almighty (Heaven, that is).

I feel like I’m betraying all my Chinese brothers and sisters in tellling you the truth that you’ll never ever get on your own.