Comments on: Gamblers unite! And book a ticket to Wuhan. http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/ Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:55:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kevin Cain http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-54773 Kevin Cain Thu, 15 May 2008 08:10:57 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-54773 I find this article about gambling on horse racing very interesting as a good freind of mine is the race course manager for Mr Chung in Beijing and i have been waiting for some positive news in this regard.I was the manager for the internet horse raceing gambling website for the listed English company Sportingbet PLC in Australia. And have since moved on to manage the call centres in the Asia Pacific region for one of the bigger Australian Bookmakers and have wide expieriance in Tote and Internet gambling and the racing industry in general. I can only agree with Bernard Angs comments on the need for a stick policy of trancparency and integrity at every level.To appreciate the people of Chinas love for gambling one only has to look at the gambling dollars leaving the mainland at present of (under estermated)US$80 Milloion.There is no doubt that that figure would pale into insignificance when race horse gambling begins in China.That sought of money always attracts corruption of one sought or another from my expieriance and the orthorities must put together very tight regulatory policies and to copy the rules etc directly from the Hong Kong Jockey Club simply wont work just as a government run tote based product for potential punters wouldn,t,as illegal betting in Hong Kong where it is all tote based has been on the increase for years. The Chinese central Government has a huge oppertunity to collect revenew from this venture and it is imperitive that it is done correctly in the first place.Firstly it would be wise to incorporate some rules and regulations from other world racing duristriction into there framework in both the racing and gambling aspects and open it up to competition and tax it accordingly.I wish them the best of luck and am sure that it WILL BE a huge success. I find this article about gambling on horse racing very interesting as a good freind of mine is the race course manager for Mr Chung in Beijing and i have been waiting for some positive news in this regard.I was the manager for the internet horse raceing gambling website for the listed English company Sportingbet PLC in Australia. And have since moved on to manage the call centres in the Asia Pacific region for one of the bigger Australian Bookmakers and have wide expieriance in Tote and Internet gambling and the racing industry in general. I can only agree with Bernard Angs comments on the need for a stick policy of trancparency and integrity at every level.To appreciate the people of Chinas love for gambling one only has to look at the gambling dollars leaving the mainland at present of (under estermated)US$80 Milloion.There is no doubt that that figure would pale into insignificance when race horse gambling begins in China.That sought of money always attracts corruption of one sought or another from my expieriance and the orthorities must put together very tight regulatory policies and to copy the rules etc directly from the Hong Kong Jockey Club simply wont work just as a government run tote based product for potential punters wouldn,t,as illegal betting in Hong Kong where it is all tote based has been on the increase for years. The Chinese central Government has a huge oppertunity to collect revenew from this venture and it is imperitive that it is done correctly in the first place.Firstly it would be wise to incorporate some rules and regulations from other world racing duristriction into there framework in both the racing and gambling aspects and open it up to competition and tax it accordingly.I wish them the best of luck and am sure that it WILL BE a huge success.

]]> By: BERNARD ANG http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-27548 BERNARD ANG Mon, 03 Mar 2008 01:41:43 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-27548 I have been in the horse racing industry in Singapore/Malaysian region for 35 years. I was the founder member and President of the Association of Racehorse Trainers Singapore (ARTS) for nine consecutive years. Re-elected as President un-opposed for four terms. From my experience, the most important factor is transparency. Rules must be clear. Justice must be seen to be carried out without fear or favour. There must be integrity at all levels - from the top officials to the employees. Lastly, the punters (or gamblers) must be educated. Unlike games on cards, there is this element of thrill or so-called personal satisfaction in picking the winning horse in a race through what we call the application of the personal touch. This is an art. It can be taught and trained through education by way of seminars and talks. I will be much obliged to assist in this field if the relevant authority is interested to pursue. Many thanks I have been in the horse racing industry in Singapore/Malaysian region for 35 years.

I was the founder member and President of the Association of Racehorse Trainers Singapore (ARTS) for nine consecutive years. Re-elected as President un-opposed for four terms.

From my experience, the most important factor is transparency. Rules must be clear. Justice must be seen to be carried out without fear or favour. There must be integrity at all levels - from the top officials to the employees.

Lastly, the punters (or gamblers) must be educated. Unlike games on cards, there is this element of thrill or so-called personal satisfaction in picking the winning horse in a race through what we call the application of the personal touch.

This is an art. It can be taught and trained through education by way of seminars and talks.

I will be much obliged to assist in this field if the relevant authority is interested to pursue.

Many thanks

]]> By: Chris O'Brien http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-22109 Chris O'Brien Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:21:18 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-22109 That would be much appreciated Lazy Aussie. I plan to nose around mid-Feb. Back to the air quality issue - well I suppose it's only guesswork but yes, I still think everything will be fine - despite the recent revelation of phoney calculations. (here's link if anyone missed it: http://time-blog.com/china_blog/2008/01/one_worldone_dreamone_gas_mask_2.html). After all, they only have to match the air quality of Athens four years ago which wasn't exactly perfect but received few complaints. That would be much appreciated Lazy Aussie. I plan to nose around mid-Feb. Back to the air quality issue - well I suppose it’s only guesswork but yes, I still think everything will be fine - despite the recent revelation of phoney calculations. (here’s link if anyone missed it: http://time-blog.com/china_blog/2008/01/one_worldone_dreamone_gas_mask_2.html).

After all, they only have to match the air quality of Athens four years ago which wasn’t exactly perfect but received few complaints.

]]> By: Lazy Aussie http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-21414 Lazy Aussie Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:17:41 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-21414 I think I'll be in Wuhan on the 17th or 18th of March now, but visiting universities rather than the races. I'll quiz some taxi drivers, although unlike Beijingren, 九头鸟 never seem to understand my mandarin. One thing I was going to ask you. We were both fairly confident that Beijing would solve its air quality problems at least for the few weeks of the Olympics. Are you still confident? I think I’ll be in Wuhan on the 17th or 18th of March now, but visiting universities rather than the races. I’ll quiz some taxi drivers, although unlike Beijingren, 九头鸟 never seem to understand my mandarin. One thing I was going to ask you. We were both fairly confident that Beijing would solve its air quality problems at least for the few weeks of the Olympics. Are you still confident?

]]> By: Chris O'Brien http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20617 Chris O'Brien Tue, 15 Jan 2008 03:33:16 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20617 David, that's a very interesting development, thank you. And I reckon your uncle could be on to another winner with a Chinese language version. He'll just have to wait another couple of decades or more for some decent stats! David, that’s a very interesting development, thank you. And I reckon your uncle could be on to another winner with a Chinese language version. He’ll just have to wait another couple of decades or more for some decent stats!

]]> By: David D http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20486 David D Mon, 14 Jan 2008 06:46:31 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20486 Hi Chris, I'm glad to see your sexed-up story is still there. I heard the Chinese version was pulled from the Xinhua and Changjiang Times websites. My uncle made his fortune through horse race betting, or rather his software to predict winners. Check it out: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970917/ai_n14133436 Hi Chris,

I’m glad to see your sexed-up story is still there. I heard the Chinese version was pulled from the Xinhua and Changjiang Times websites.

My uncle made his fortune through horse race betting, or rather his software to predict winners.

Check it out:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_19970917/ai_n14133436

]]> By: Micah Sittig http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20462 Micah Sittig Mon, 14 Jan 2008 03:58:46 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20462 <blockquote>Other releasers...</blockquote> Is that what they're calling them these days?

Other releasers…

Is that what they’re calling them these days?

]]> By: Chris O'Brien http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20364 Chris O'Brien Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:02:15 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20364 Extremely Concerned (feels ridiculous writing that when who you are): I was mulling over that conspiracy theory following the auction. All we need is a tenuous link between Orient Lucky Horse Group and Stanley and we're away. Lazy Aussie: I think I might be in Wuhan in about a month - will email in the next couple of days. Ah David (background: Dave is the only person I know who is able to equal my enthusiasm for a four-day jolly at the Cheltenham Horse Racing Festival in March where Guinness-dribbling, unintelligible Irishmen become Gods among men and Abba tribute bands are strangely tolerable), I knew you would enjoy this one! I suppose I could set up an outrageously expensive 0898 number to receive all your 100 entries submitted under different guises. The betting system would most certainly be on-course only - and yep, Tote-style pool betting. The Chinese press was referring to "intelligence competitions" in which a punter has to choose which horse is going to win. So gambling then. Wonder if they will try and limit stakes - I suppose that would only serve to increase possibilities for illegal bookies. Obviously, this is just a trial at one racecourse but I have heard that some British bookies have been in contact with the Chinese government for some time on the legalization of gambling issue. Extremely Concerned (feels ridiculous writing that when who you are): I was mulling over that conspiracy theory following the auction. All we need is a tenuous link between Orient Lucky Horse Group and Stanley and we’re away.

Lazy Aussie: I think I might be in Wuhan in about a month - will email in the next couple of days.

Ah David (background: Dave is the only person I know who is able to equal my enthusiasm for a four-day jolly at the Cheltenham Horse Racing Festival in March where Guinness-dribbling, unintelligible Irishmen become Gods among men and Abba tribute bands are strangely tolerable), I knew you would enjoy this one! I suppose I could set up an outrageously expensive 0898 number to receive all your 100 entries submitted under different guises.

The betting system would most certainly be on-course only - and yep, Tote-style pool betting. The Chinese press was referring to “intelligence competitions” in which a punter has to choose which horse is going to win. So gambling then. Wonder if they will try and limit stakes - I suppose that would only serve to increase possibilities for illegal bookies. Obviously, this is just a trial at one racecourse but I have heard that some British bookies have been in contact with the Chinese government for some time on the legalization of gambling issue.

]]> By: Dave http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20203 Dave Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:05:15 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20203 Oh, and how will the gambling work? Will it be just a Tote-style system run by the state, or will there be openings for budding bookies? Will they be opening the doors to Victor Chandler, Ladbrokes and the like? Oh, and how will the gambling work? Will it be just a Tote-style system run by the state, or will there be openings for budding bookies? Will they be opening the doors to Victor Chandler, Ladbrokes and the like?

]]> By: Dave http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20202 Dave Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:03:07 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2008/01/11/gamblers-unite-and-book-a-ticket-to-wuhan/#comment-20202 Will Beijing Newspeak be holding a competition where the winner gets an all expenses paid trip to Orient Lucky City Racecourse's first day of legal gambling, with on-hand tipping advice from Stansted's favourite son? Not only would that increase your readership but also attract attention to the pairing of two of your great loves, China and the GeeGees Will Beijing Newspeak be holding a competition where the winner gets an all expenses paid trip to Orient Lucky City Racecourse’s first day of legal gambling, with on-hand tipping advice from Stansted’s favourite son?
Not only would that increase your readership but also attract attention to the pairing of two of your great loves, China and the GeeGees

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