Comments on: What the Chinese are reading about Burma http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/ Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:13:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: giselle http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7828 giselle Mon, 08 Oct 2007 06:51:37 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7828 Hello! I'm Gie Nerviza. Editorial Assistant of ChinaBusiness-Philippines. We are wondering if we could invite you to write for our magazine which of course would be anything about China. Feel free to contact us at chinabusiness.philippines@gmail.com. Thank you and hoping to hear from you soon. Hello! I’m Gie Nerviza. Editorial Assistant of ChinaBusiness-Philippines. We are wondering if we could invite you to write for our magazine which of course would be anything about China. Feel free to contact us at chinabusiness.philippines@gmail.com. Thank you and hoping to hear from you soon.

]]> By: Peter http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7622 Peter Thu, 04 Oct 2007 20:46:01 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7622 Sad. I thought Chinese newspapers had moved forward... obviously wrong! Sad. I thought Chinese newspapers had moved forward… obviously wrong!

]]> By: yow3721 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7601 yow3721 Thu, 04 Oct 2007 13:54:14 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7601 Dirk Lother wrote: “I can only hope that more and more Chinese start using their brains instead of believing the Chinese media which is entirely controlled by the government.” Dirk, do you have a brain yourself? Dirk Lother wrote:
“I can only hope that more and more Chinese start using their brains instead of believing the Chinese media which is entirely controlled by the government.”

Dirk, do you have a brain yourself?

]]> By: Shanghaiist http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7597 Shanghaiist Thu, 04 Oct 2007 11:56:55 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7597 <strong>Free Burma, YES, but is it right to blame Beijing?...</strong> So in the meanwhile, it's become kind of fashionable to blame Beijing for the mess in "Myanmar" . Sure,... Free Burma, YES, but is it right to blame Beijing?…

So in the meanwhile, it’s become kind of fashionable to blame Beijing for the mess in “Myanmar” . Sure,…

]]> By: Connecting News, Commentaries and Blogs at NineReports.com http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7593 Connecting News, Commentaries and Blogs at NineReports.com Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:08:32 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7593 <strong>Related News Stories ...</strong> Japanese journalist&1;s body returns from Myanmar ...Blogged about at What the Chinese are reading about Burma - beijing newspeak, TOKYO (Reuters) - The body of a Japanese video journalist who was shot dead during a crackdown on pro-democracy protests ... Related News Stories …

Japanese journalist&1;s body returns from Myanmar …Blogged about at What the Chinese are reading about Burma - beijing newspeak, TOKYO (Reuters) - The body of a Japanese video journalist who was shot dead during a crackdown on pro-democracy protests …

]]> By: zuraffo http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7591 zuraffo Thu, 04 Oct 2007 09:22:14 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7591 "I can only hope that more and more Chinese start using their brains instead of believing the Chinese media which is entirely controlled by the government." They can do much worse: They can start believing the western (english) press instead. “I can only hope that more and more Chinese start using their brains instead of believing the Chinese media which is entirely controlled by the government.”

They can do much worse: They can start believing the western (english) press instead.

]]> By: pffefer http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7557 pffefer Wed, 03 Oct 2007 20:41:41 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7557 Apparently most of you guys don't understand the Chinese that well: You have given the Chinese media, like Global Times too much credit. Global Times is known for propagating and repeating the official CCP line, you know it, I know it, the Chinese know it. I'd say most Chinese are so sick and tired of the official party line and the state-controlled media, to a point that they have developed this knee-jerk reaction of dismissing anything coming from the official media. Granted that state media like Xinhua and GT etc. spouts out mostly party propaganda (just like how Pentagon and Fox News try to manipulate), but from time to time they have some good stuff. Some naïve Chinese have gone so far as to believe the notion that "you can trust nothing in China and you can trust almost everything in the west", because they somehow believe that western press tells the truth simply because they are supposed to be "free". Haha, again nh is calling for boycotting China and everything Chinese. The best way to boycott China is to get out of China because as long as you live in China you are going to have to buy its products, unless you airlift everything, food, groceries and other items from the US (even in the US you see Chinese made stuff everywhere). And those who condemn China for doing business with the junta in Myanmar should also condemn your own government for doing business with China, after all China is an authoritarian/dictatorship state just like Myanmar is. And your presence in China certainly doesn't help the boycott. :-) Apparently most of you guys don’t understand the Chinese that well: You have given the Chinese media, like Global Times too much credit. Global Times is known for propagating and repeating the official CCP line, you know it, I know it, the Chinese know it. I’d say most Chinese are so sick and tired of the official party line and the state-controlled media, to a point that they have developed this knee-jerk reaction of dismissing anything coming from the official media. Granted that state media like Xinhua and GT etc. spouts out mostly party propaganda (just like how Pentagon and Fox News try to manipulate), but from time to time they have some good stuff. Some naïve Chinese have gone so far as to believe the notion that “you can trust nothing in China and you can trust almost everything in the west”, because they somehow believe that western press tells the truth simply because they are supposed to be “free”.

Haha, again nh is calling for boycotting China and everything Chinese. The best way to boycott China is to get out of China because as long as you live in China you are going to have to buy its products, unless you airlift everything, food, groceries and other items from the US (even in the US you see Chinese made stuff everywhere). And those who condemn China for doing business with the junta in Myanmar should also condemn your own government for doing business with China, after all China is an authoritarian/dictatorship state just like Myanmar is. And your presence in China certainly doesn’t help the boycott. :-)

]]> By: China Law Blog http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7540 China Law Blog Wed, 03 Oct 2007 17:27:30 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7540 <strong>China Bribery: Send Lawyers, Guns And Money...</strong> Though we foreigners love to poke fun at the "official" China press, it can certainly be a good source for what Beijing is thinking and planning to do and today's issue makes clear its position on foreign company bribery. Its position: Beijing does ... China Bribery: Send Lawyers, Guns And Money…

Though we foreigners love to poke fun at the “official” China press, it can certainly be a good source for what Beijing is thinking and planning to do and today’s issue makes clear its position on foreign company bribery. Its position: Beijing does …

]]> By: Richard Spencer http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7513 Richard Spencer Wed, 03 Oct 2007 09:16:49 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7513 I too wouldn't entirely blame the reporter, however odd his approach appears to a reader in English - all that melodrama of getting to Bangkok airport... by the looks of it, the poor guy was sent to Burma, and had only got to his hotel when he was told to file copy and then found the phones were cut off. We've all had that nightmare. It did occur to me too that his anti-western media stuff was so absurd that it was all a ploy to get their view of events to Chinese readers. But perhaps I'm being over-optimistic. One question: when he says that of 46 people on the plane, 14 were "foreigners" (presumably waiguoren) what was he describing? Foreign to which country? If it's non-Burmese, that seems to a be a lot of Burmese heading into trouble; ditto if as seems most unlikely it's non-Thai. If it's non-Chinese, which would be the standard Chinese meaning of waiguoren, that rather proves the Chinese influence bit, if even now the majority of a flight into Burma was occupied by Chinese. I'm guessing that what he means is that there were 35 Asians and 11 non-Asians (caucasians but perhaps the odd black/middle eastern person). In which case, it's an interesting little insight into the instinct that defines "Asians" as a conceptual nation. I too wouldn’t entirely blame the reporter, however odd his approach appears to a reader in English - all that melodrama of getting to Bangkok airport… by the looks of it, the poor guy was sent to Burma, and had only got to his hotel when he was told to file copy and then found the phones were cut off. We’ve all had that nightmare.
It did occur to me too that his anti-western media stuff was so absurd that it was all a ploy to get their view of events to Chinese readers. But perhaps I’m being over-optimistic.
One question: when he says that of 46 people on the plane, 14 were “foreigners” (presumably waiguoren) what was he describing? Foreign to which country? If it’s non-Burmese, that seems to a be a lot of Burmese heading into trouble; ditto if as seems most unlikely it’s non-Thai. If it’s non-Chinese, which would be the standard Chinese meaning of waiguoren, that rather proves the Chinese influence bit, if even now the majority of a flight into Burma was occupied by Chinese.
I’m guessing that what he means is that there were 35 Asians and 11 non-Asians (caucasians but perhaps the odd black/middle eastern person). In which case, it’s an interesting little insight into the instinct that defines “Asians” as a conceptual nation.

]]> By: JL http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7508 JL Wed, 03 Oct 2007 05:36:19 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/10/01/what-the-chinese-are-reading-about-burma/#comment-7508 lacob, I stand by the point that the Global Times tends to report news items from a fairly strong nationalist angle, and there are papers that aren't so nationalist (albiet perhaps less popular ones). However since we are talking about what the Chinese are reading about Burma, and those less nationalist papers so far haven't done the kind of story that you outline (as far as I know), I agree that it is important to keep in mind the differences you point out. lacob,

I stand by the point that the Global Times tends to report news items from a fairly strong nationalist angle, and there are papers that aren’t so nationalist (albiet perhaps less popular ones). However since we are talking about what the Chinese are reading about Burma, and those less nationalist papers so far haven’t done the kind of story that you outline (as far as I know), I agree that it is important to keep in mind the differences you point out.

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