Comments on: YouTube in China conundrum rears its head again http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/ Thu, 29 Jul 2010 11:34:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Chris O'Brien http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-21 Chris O'Brien Thu, 15 Mar 2007 14:36:22 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-21 I know what you mean Charlie/Shan. But it does pain me to sign my name to unintelligble crap and then watch it float out across the wire. Although I hardly touch the diplomatic desk "stories" of course. I don't think people make a real distinction between a Xinhua journalist's story and a government story. So one stream of babble completely undermines hard work spent on a decent two-page dissection of the problems with the Chinese health service for example - and no one takes it seriously. For court stories - the verdict for the case of blind activist Chen Guangcheng for example - it is best to attribute every sentence to the court document. And add phrases like "no more deatils were given" etc. Disassociate Xinhua from it all, as well as myself. I know what you mean Charlie/Shan. But it does pain me to sign my name to unintelligble crap and then watch it float out across the wire. Although I hardly touch the diplomatic desk “stories” of course. I don’t think people make a real distinction between a Xinhua journalist’s story and a government story. So one stream of babble completely undermines hard work spent on a decent two-page dissection of the problems with the Chinese health service for example - and no one takes it seriously. For court stories - the verdict for the case of blind activist Chen Guangcheng for example - it is best to attribute every sentence to the court document. And add phrases like “no more deatils were given” etc. Disassociate Xinhua from it all, as well as myself.

]]> By: Shan http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-20 Shan Thu, 15 Mar 2007 05:11:08 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-20 Agree with Charlie. My personal policy when working on a govt-run "lifestyle" magazine in Beijing was to edit to native standard factual stories, and let our non-native "English Expert" (read: censor) handle the govt. stories. The result was always that the govt. stories stuck out like the sore thumbs they were. Oh, and a nice mini-essay about "English Polishing" can be found here: http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1672104 Agree with Charlie.

My personal policy when working on a govt-run “lifestyle” magazine in Beijing was to edit to native standard factual stories, and let our non-native “English Expert” (read: censor) handle the govt. stories. The result was always that the govt. stories stuck out like the sore thumbs they were.

Oh, and a nice mini-essay about “English Polishing” can be found here:

http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1672104

]]> By: Mattsmith http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-18 Mattsmith Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:15:10 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-18 Hi Chris, Found you through the lovely Positive Solutions, but have today been directed here by thee eswn. Congratualtions! Like what I see so far. Keep up the good work. Matt ps This editing/polishing business must really bring out the best in people, if only after hours. Hi Chris,
Found you through the lovely Positive Solutions, but have today been directed here by thee eswn.
Congratualtions!
Like what I see so far. Keep up the good work.
Matt

ps This editing/polishing business must really bring out the best in people, if only after hours.

]]> By: Jim http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-17 Jim Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:13:38 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-17 "YouTube-style websites were visited by about 76 million of the 137 million Chinese Internet users last year" Wouldn't that be mostly the domestic clones like tudou though? Obviously haven't done a content comparison, but I suspect they may feature fewer clips of police murder. “YouTube-style websites were visited by about 76 million of the 137 million Chinese Internet users last year”
Wouldn’t that be mostly the domestic clones like tudou though? Obviously haven’t done a content comparison, but I suspect they may feature fewer clips of police murder.

]]> By: Charlie http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-16 Charlie Wed, 14 Mar 2007 06:43:51 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-16 ESWN, slightly-tedious Danwei - you've made it now! May the idiotic comments commence... Bit of State-media solidarity, brother: You got to disassociate, and make sure you keep errors like 'stowaway' in just to make sure the effect is for the story to be laughable... ESWN, slightly-tedious Danwei - you’ve made it now! May the idiotic comments commence…

Bit of State-media solidarity, brother: You got to disassociate, and make sure you keep errors like ’stowaway’ in just to make sure the effect is for the story to be laughable…

]]> By: Micah http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Micah Wed, 14 Mar 2007 04:34:40 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-15 Youtube is not entirely untouched by the GFW: http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/index.php?name=MDForum&file=viewtopic&p=597318 > I am wondering if anyone else has trouble getting to the second page of > Youtube when searching for videos. Youtube is not entirely untouched by the GFW:

http://www.shanghaiexpat.com/index.php?name=MDForum&file=viewtopic&p=597318

> I am wondering if anyone else has trouble getting to the second page of
> Youtube when searching for videos.

]]> By: China Law Blog http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/comment-page-1/#comment-14 China Law Blog Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:17:34 +0000 http://www.beijingnewspeak.com/2007/03/14/youtube-in-china-conundrum-rears-its-head-again/#comment-14 Congrats. I think you are the only blog that views this talk/article for what it was. Everyone else keeps acting as though new laws just came down or it is a matter of days before they do. Let's wait and see. Congrats. I think you are the only blog that views this talk/article for what it was. Everyone else keeps acting as though new laws just came down or it is a matter of days before they do. Let’s wait and see.

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